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[–] Iron_Lynx@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

My main cleric started as "a tabaxi cleric who does his healing by running his head past the injury while purring." However:

  • The same can be done by druids, paladins and some versions of the warlock class
  • Said tabaxi became the party's tank, thanks to his high AC
  • He's not even optimised for healing (nature domain instead of life domain)
[–] Quetzalcutlass@lemmy.world 56 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

I love how unexpectedly complex some classes are.

Like the Ranger, which mashes together a half dozen different playstyles but balances it by being mediocre at most of them.

Or the Druid, which mashes together a half dozen different playstyles and doesn't bother to balance them whatsoever (to quote Order of the Stick: "I have class features more powerful than your entire class").

[–] Dadifer@lemmy.world 23 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Who wants two health bars?

[–] becausechemistry@piefed.social 15 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Not anymore! 5.5e gives them temp HP when they wild shape, not an entire beast worth of health bar.

[–] Dadifer@lemmy.world 13 points 4 days ago
[–] Ooops@feddit.org 11 points 4 days ago (1 children)

And (before the 2024 edition) once you reach lvl20 that second healthbar can replenished once per round forever and ever...

[–] Dadifer@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Holy shit. Why did they nerf it?

[–] psud@aussie.zone 2 points 1 day ago

Druids were considered too powerful (they've never seen a 3.0 druid I guess

[–] TotallyNotSpezUpload@startrek.website 47 points 4 days ago (3 children)

My Cleric just clubbed the hell out of enemies while low-key tanking and healing party members. ^^

[–] Iron_Lynx@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

I ran the numbers once between my cleric and a paladin I have as an alt. The paladin, without smites could, on average, get the cleric down in about 8 turns. The cleric could down the paladin in 6.

[–] Bustedknuckles@lemmy.world 27 points 4 days ago

Spirit guardians + spiritual weapon + 19 AC!

[–] Xaphanos@lemmy.world 8 points 4 days ago

I would use total defense and tie up the most dangerous thug while the rest of the party picked off the lesser threats. Most of the time I'd never get hit at all. Then once they finished them off after a few rounds I'd step back and let them pound away while I did the real clericing.

[–] P1k1e@lemmy.world 40 points 4 days ago (3 children)

I remember the first time I played 3.5 dnd and my DM was explaining how the classes worked and I was like wow cleric sounds super strong, but I'm sure the negatives will show as we learn the game more..... Cleric is like.....the goddamn strongest class (I know druid is supposedly stronger but no one ever played a good druid with us)

[–] psud@aussie.zone 15 points 4 days ago

Cleric is strong, druid is broken. A druid played by someone who wants to be invited back will be about as strong as the cleric

[–] tdawg@lemmy.world 14 points 4 days ago (1 children)

The day I learned you could magically rip someone's heart out I was sold

[–] P1k1e@lemmy.world 8 points 4 days ago

The power words are all mega sick, but my favorite has always been Harm

[–] Bamboodpanda@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago

I felt like a literal god playing a wizard in 3.5. The summon table was silly.

[–] MouseKeyboard@ttrpg.network 16 points 3 days ago

"Isn't that the class that just casts spirit guardians?"

Veteran player: "It can do other things?"

[–] teft@piefed.social 18 points 4 days ago

My tempest cleric heals you with zapping.

CLEAR!!!

[–] whotookkarl@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Direct heals, heals over time/regeneration, hit reactive heals, temp HP pre-healing, aoe heals, single target heals, complete heals, near death heals, touch heals, pbaoe heals, ground based heals, healing rays/beams, healing summon,

[–] Ooops@feddit.org 8 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Yes, my trickery domain, arcane trickster multi-class can in fact heal people... among just a few other things.

[–] TachyonTele@piefed.social 9 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (3 children)

Yeah, Camilla in WotR is a cleric and she ... just sucks. The other cleric is amazing at healing everyone.

Shadowheart in BG3 i can't get to hit anything the entire game.

[–] orenj@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 4 days ago

Isn't she a shaman? A dex shaman?

[–] teft@piefed.social 5 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Install the player handbook 2024 rules mod. That fixes her inability to hit things. But otherwise respec her. She has weird stats right out the gate. I usually go 16/14/12/8/16/8.

[–] TachyonTele@piefed.social 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I had to stop using the 2024 mod because of the short rests not working. It's a small thing, but it's not advertised at all so it really ruins a game on ya.

[–] teft@piefed.social 3 points 4 days ago

That got me too at first but now i just stock up on healing potions. That’s the only part (short rest only healing one hp) not working i think. I get my action surge and warlock spells back.

I don't see why you'd bother when you can just cast spirit guardians and instant win every fight instead. Plus it kind of makes her story ring hollow... Probably matters less to a player on a second playthrough.

[–] Malgas@beehaw.org 2 points 4 days ago

Huh, it's been a while since I played WotR, but I seem to recall using her as DPS. Maybe I respecced her or something.

Though my MC was a merged spellbook oracle/angel, so past a certain point the competency of the rest of my party didn't really matter.

[–] Etterra@discuss.online 5 points 3 days ago

My first ever character was an ad&d 2e cleric, and even back then I did other things. Especially tanking and bearing monsters with a big fuck off hammer.

[–] orenj@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

heheheheh. I miss PF1e's clerics, they were such freak beasts even after being 'nerfed' from 3.5.

[–] Armillarian@pawb.social 3 points 3 days ago

What about Warlock?

[–] Kyle_The_G@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago

warlock is where its at.