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Community members in a Tennessee school district want to banish Satan from their children’s halls after the formation of a new club was announced.

The After School Satan Club (ASSC) wants to establish a branch in Chimneyrock elementary school in the Memphis-Shelby county schools (MSCS) district.

The ASSC is a federally recognized nonprofit organization and national after-school program with local chapters across the US. The club is associated with the Satanic Temple, though it claims it is secular and “promotes self-directed education by supporting the intellectual and creative interests of students”.

The Satanic Temple makes it clear its members do not actually worship the devil or believe in the existence of Satan or the supernatural. Instead Satan is used as a symbol of free will, humanism and anti-authoritarianism.

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[–] kromem@lemmy.world 71 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (8 children)

The number of adults in the US that think Satan is a literal being is way too fucking high.

It started as an editor using 'adversary' in the place of what was probably the goddess Anat appealing the head of the pantheon to kill the son of the protagonist like in the earlier Canaanite A Tale of Aqhat as an intro into what was an adaptation of the also earlier Babylonian Theodicy in Job.

But we couldn't have a polytheistic holdover, so suddenly there was a supernatural 'adversary' ('Satan') in a story.

Which in turn spawned fanfiction during the prophet ages where they referred to the supernatural adversary of Job.

Then Hellenistic ideas around Hades (both the place and figure) get added into the mix, and we get the Enochian literature about fallen angels, where the guided katabasis influenced Virgil which later informs Dante's Inferno.

Then King James messes up translating Isaiah and the Latin for the morning star (Lucifer) gets mistaken for a proper name, further tying the supernatural adversary to being one of the Enochian fallen angels. And we get Milton's Paradise Lost.

It's all just mistranslations and fanfiction.

And yet millions of people believe it's actually a thing so much so that they freak out at the idea of any references to it as literally being dangerous.

In 2022.

An age filled with things beyond the wildest imagination of those in antiquity dreaming up miracles and wonders.

We're so beyond fucked as a species.

[–] phx@lemmy.world 28 points 2 years ago

To those people, if there's no Devil then it means all the bad stuff in their heads and hearts is just them. All the temptations are them. All the hatred, including self-hatred is them. There's no Devil that made them do it or think it, no external tempter or defiler to resist. They can't take that.

[–] militaryintelligence@lemmy.world 20 points 2 years ago (2 children)
[–] BoastfulDaedra@lemmynsfw.com 16 points 2 years ago (1 children)
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[–] kromem@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] m4xie@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

It'll be 2024 in a couple of weeks...

[–] cultsuperstar@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Well you can't believe Satan is real without believing God is real, and that number is too high too.

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[–] CoolMatt@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

I understood some of these words.

But that was fun to read

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[–] Hoomod@lemmy.world 70 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Satan accepts everyone

Not his fault that God is picky

[–] madcaesar@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago (4 children)

God is the dickhead that puts a dangerous tree in the garden despite knowing exactly what's going to happen. God is the asshole that wipes out everyone (even the animals) except one drunkard and his family because God apparently fucked up again. God is the one who creates a place of infinite punishment for finite crimes.

God is the real villain of the Bible.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

And Satan is the hero that fought an omnipotent being knowing he would lose because he wanted freedom more than he wanted victory.

[–] Patches@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Member when he made bet the devil that a man would never give him up no matter how fucking miserable God made him? Job remembers

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[–] Patches@sh.itjust.works 12 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Satan doesn't whisper "Believe in me".

He shouts "Believe in yourself".

Satan is rad as hell.

[–] nicetriangle@kbin.social 64 points 2 years ago

The outrage these assholes are feeling is what the rest of us feel every time we see them trying to force their dogma into every facet of society.

[–] Pratai@lemmy.ca 47 points 2 years ago (2 children)

It would be sad how badly these idiots fail to see the irony when it’s spelled out for them if it wasn’t so funny.

[–] pandacoder@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

They can't spell, and even if they can they can't read and don't listen.

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[–] badbytes@lemmy.world 37 points 2 years ago

Low IQ Christians never learn. They must be old dogs.

[–] Gazumi@lemmy.world 35 points 2 years ago

Actively missing the point......... "In a meeting with more than 40 pastors and other religious leaders, the district board chair, Althea E Greene, said: “Satan has no room in this district.”"

[–] BoastfulDaedra@lemmynsfw.com 34 points 2 years ago (1 children)

If it wasn't registered, "After School Satan Club" would be a great name for a punk band.

[–] warbond@lemmy.world 21 points 2 years ago (1 children)

ASS Club does have a certain ring to it.

[–] Nathanator@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Especially if there were 7 band members.

[–] LPodyssey07@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago

Ain’t no party like an ASS club party

[–] Atomdude@lemmy.world 34 points 2 years ago (2 children)
[–] negativeyoda@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago

Watching the Church of Satan get exasperated when they're tagged about this shit on Twitter never ceases to amuse me

[–] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Is the blue cheese thing in their comparison chart thing real?

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[–] Facebones@reddthat.com 27 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Reading the outrage comments always tickles me lol. Welcome to the point, bitches!

[–] Ultraviolet@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It's a bit frustrating that it doesn't make any of them actually reflect on their hypocrisy though. They just double down on the hypocrisy with no questions asked.

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[–] OldWoodFrame@lemm.ee 24 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

The uproar is the point.

The Satanic Temple makes it clear its members do not actually worship the devil or believe in the existence of Satan or the supernatural.

But somehow conservative Christians believe that there are huge swaths of people who agree that their religion is 100% correct but worship the weak bad guy character.

(Which is not to mention that there are actually multiple bad guys who got combined, Satan and Lucifer and The Snake were originally different people)

[–] flipht@kbin.social 19 points 2 years ago

This is a long standing joke - what do you call someone who believes in Satan?

A Christian.

[–] TigrisMorte@kbin.social 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

God is omniscient and thus knew exactly what Lucifer would do. Angels don't have free will. Lucifer did exactly what God intended. God wanted Man to have free will. Free will requires the choice between good and evil. Man is the "bad guy" as well as the "good guy".

[–] dewritoninja@pawb.social 7 points 2 years ago (4 children)

If god is omniscient they would know exactly what everyone is going to choose, nullifying free will entirely

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[–] GardeningSadhu@lemm.ee 22 points 2 years ago

good, the more noise they make the more this will spread

[–] Landsharkgun@midwest.social 21 points 2 years ago

ASS Club.

Nice.

[–] Tedesche@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago

God bless the Satanic Temple!

[–] ZeroCool@feddit.ch 15 points 2 years ago (1 children)
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[–] rayyy@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago

Of course Tennessee Christians are outraged. The after School Satan Club is most likely way more Christian than they are so there's stiff competition.

[–] SulaymanF@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago

People always fall for the obvious troll.

[–] archomrade@midwest.social 10 points 2 years ago

Satanism is to Christianity as Jim's beach day team "Voldemort" is to Dwight's team "Gryffindor"

[–] Jaysyn@kbin.social 5 points 2 years ago (2 children)

They can't without getting rid of all other extra curricular activities & I love that for them.

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[–] DarkThoughts@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Sad that something like this is even needed but the US is full of bigoted hypocrites that want to turn the country into a religious state.

[–] Hugohase@kbin.social 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Sad that something like this is even needed but the ~~US~~ world is full of bigoted hypocrites that want to turn the ~~country~~ world into a religious ~~state~~ wasteland.

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[–] reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

well this is gonna end in violence that gets ignored

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