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[–] flora_explora@beehaw.org 6 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Dude, I wasn't saying you aren't supportive enough. Just, that you are taking up too much space! This day is (was) literally meant to be a celebration of trans people and their struggles and you try to make it about yourself. So yes, it would be exactly the right occasion to for one day validate us. And if you don't want to, then just shut up.

[–] Powderhorn@beehaw.org 1 points 17 hours ago (4 children)

You're proving my point. The trans community isn't doing itself any favours by saying "the is a day where everyone who isn't trans needs to shut the fuck up."

[–] KAtieTot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Your anecdotes are cute but I think you're kinda missing the point where it's very explicitly about trans voices.

With friends like you who needs enemies?

[–] Powderhorn@beehaw.org 1 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

OK, let me get more blunt: Attacking anyone who isn't exactly like you is authoritarianism. How's that been working out for your cause? Posting on a site with cis members inherently invites them into the conversation, and attacking them for being "other" is exactly the right way to lose support.

[–] KAtieTot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

Read what I said again, slower, and ask yourself why asking for a space for our voices to be heard feels like an attack to you.

[–] Powderhorn@beehaw.org 1 points 13 hours ago

I'm sure you could be more condescending. Give it a go!

[–] Powderhorn@beehaw.org 1 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

I didn't silence you! I participated in the conversation and was told I wasn't qualified to speak. This is middle school bullshit.

[–] KAtieTot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

🥺 okay then buddy, grow up?

[–] Powderhorn@beehaw.org 1 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

NO U

Is that really your thesis?

[–] KAtieTot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

No my thesis is you're playing the victim card and it's fucking pathetic.

[–] Powderhorn@beehaw.org 1 points 12 hours ago

How am I doing so? Please, let me know so that I can avoid doing so in the future. "Fucking pathetic" only indicates that you did not like what I said, not any alternative worldview other than "you're cis, and therefore the enemy."

[–] irvinefantasyno@beehaw.org 3 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Siiiiiiiiiiiigh

Why are the cis like this

[–] Powderhorn@beehaw.org 1 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

By this logic, anyone who isn't Black shouldn't talk for all of Black History Month. It's an absurd expectation.

[–] NVE_Girl@beehaw.org 3 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

That's a false equivalent, Black History Month is a full month, TDoV is one day.

No one is suggesting a total ban on speech. We’re pointing out the difference between participating in a conversation and directing it. The goal of a day like TDoV is for trans people to be the subject of the conversation, rather than the audience for someone else’s memories.

[–] Powderhorn@beehaw.org 1 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

You're still saying your supporters have no right to a voice unless they're exactly like you. That is a very slippery slope, since, ostensibly, the point of a day of awareness is to promote conversation. That's exactly the sort of argument people make to oppose trans rights in the first place.

[–] NVE_Girl@beehaw.org 3 points 15 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Powderhorn@beehaw.org 1 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Then what are you saying? Because from my perspective, you're trying to proclaim activism without having taken Activism 098.

[–] NVE_Girl@beehaw.org 1 points 10 hours ago

First day on beehaw as a trans woman. Sure do feel welcome here, thank you Powderhorn.

[–] NVE_Girl@beehaw.org 2 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

I think there’s a misunderstanding about the intent here. Asking for space on TDoV isn’t meant as an attack, but as a boundary. Support shouldn't be conditional on a community being perfectly polite while they're asking to be heard. Telling a marginalized group they aren't doing themselves any favors by setting boundaries on their own visibility day feels more like a lecture than allyship.

[–] flora_explora@beehaw.org 1 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Wtf? Are you trying to berate us how to fight for our rights now?

[–] Powderhorn@beehaw.org 1 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

I'm saying that telling anyone cis to shut the fuck up is hurting your cause instead of boosting visibility. You can't have both, which is tautological, so you're actively attacking people you support you for having the audacity to join the conversation. This is not how movements gain traction.