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Ninety-four percent of participants in a new study stood firm in their trans identity after five years, and "detransitioning" is rare.

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[–] SushiSushi@lemmy.blahaj.zone 33 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The 94% in the heading feels a little misleading, that doesn't include the 3.5% that identified as non binary at the end.

Very interesting read.

[–] tae_glas@slrpnk.net 22 points 2 months ago (1 children)

yeah, it's v weird & ill-informed of them to not count nonbinary people as trans. even the way they shove these two sentences into one paragraph, as though being nonbinary is somehow detransitioning:

One thing to consider is that this study began almost a decade ago, in 2013, and the way we frame transitioning and “detransitioning” has been evolving. When the researchers started the study, no one they interviewed identified as nonbinary or used they/them pronouns, Olson told NBC News.

i'm pretty sure nonbinary people were trans before 2013, but those researchers also had plenty of time to, y'know, do research on it in the meantime 😬

[–] hexagon527@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 2 months ago (3 children)

i've seen some nonbinary people who don't identify as trans, which doesn't make sense to me, but people can call themselves what they want

[–] tae_glas@slrpnk.net 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

i agree that people can call themselves whatever they want, they know themselves best!

these researchers don't have the right to make that decision for others, though.

[–] hexagon527@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] tae_glas@slrpnk.net 1 points 2 months ago

i never said you said that either; i was just attempting to tie the conversation back to the research there, apologies for my clunky writing!

i'd be fine if the researchers had asked the nonbinary people in their study whether they consider themselves trans or not, then the researchers would have learned new things about transness & what it means to individual people! 💚 but disappointingly, the researchers seem to have excluded them from transness by default, without asking. 🥀😮‍💨

[–] DarkAri@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Being trans is really about changing your actual body. Not all people want to change their body. Nonbinary is just about not putting yourself in either category. I am nonbinary and transfem. I like to look fem but I'm still masc in some ways and also tomboyish.

[–] hexagon527@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

see i'm with those who believe if you change your physical body you are not only transgender but transsexual, though i know some have a problem with the latter term. as someone who's had surgery i like being able to specify.

the definition of transgender i'm going by is that trans = not your biological sex. so if a nonbinary person does not identify with their biological sex, they are not cisgender. and not cis is... trans. but again, this is just my definition. everyone's gonna have their own way of defining their reality.

[–] DarkAri@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 2 months ago

Just like gender these words don't really have much concrete meaning. IDC how people identify. I think it's interesting.

[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

Some choose so, due to not going through HRT and etc.

[–] hexagon527@lemmy.blahaj.zone 22 points 2 months ago (1 children)

even for the small percentage of kids who do detransition, it shouldn't be cause for alarm. kids should be allowed to experiment freely and if they find something doesn't fit we shouldn't shame them for it

[–] Witchfire@lemmy.world 21 points 2 months ago

To follow on that, for the unaware, the majority of trans affirming care under 18 is social in nature. When they do get meds it's puberty blockers. If they decide it's not for them they'll go through puberty as normal, just delayed by a bit.

Almost no one under 18 is getting full HRT, much less surgery. Hell, trans adults who want surgery struggle to get it as is, often requiring an insane number of hoops.

(Am trans, happy to answer any questions)