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[–] Jaysyn@kbin.social 71 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Reminder that the both the Mormon & Catholic "Churches" could feed, house & clothe every single homeless person in the USA indefinitely & it would only cost them a fraction of their net worth.

They had rather sit on their wealth like the Dragon though, regardless of the punishments for that described in their "Bible".

That's how you know they don't really believe in their own bullshit.

[–] alienanimals@lemmy.world 26 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Churches need to pay taxes. It's unacceptable that they're the only ones who are officially exempt.

[–] Welt@lazysoci.al 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

How do you reckon we make that happen? Any hope, or are they as powerful as billionaires?

[–] Kiernian@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

I'm far less worried about churches paying sales, property, and income taxes than people making tens of billions of dollars a year.

We'll get WAY MORE social benefit out of properly taxing the ultra-ultra rich than we will out of the hundreds of thousands of mini-churches who have volunteer receptionists twice a week or even the few hundred mega churches with jet-setting pastors.

Turn your ire on the bigotry and hypocrisy of a church that attempts to profess love and hate at the same time and out of the same mouth to your heart's content, but when it comes to money, we need to deal with the robber barons. They're the ones causing the economic problem.

[–] PersnickityPenguin@lemm.ee -3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

What? Churches are specifically exempt from ALL taxes in the US. I clouding income, property, and all others.

[–] Fondots@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

It's unacceptable that they're the only ones who are officially exempt.

Kind of seems like the person you're replying to is well-aware of that, and when they said "Churches need to pay taxes," they didn't mean it as "churches are currently legally obligated to pay taxes" but rather "churches paying taxes is something that needs to happen."

[–] theangryseal@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago

Libertarians are always certain religious charities will foot all of the bills though.

Like if humans were perfect and weren’t greedy assholes.

[–] Nurgle@lemmy.world 39 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

44% of single family homes were purchased by private equity in 2023. Some analysts expect institutional investors to control 40% of the SFH rental market by 2030.

[–] Bonskreeskreeskree@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

And when are the American people going to demand an end to this shit? They represented less than 3% of sfh ownership in 2012. How long until everyone must rent? How long until people are forced to sell due to taxes driving them out of ownership due to inflated pricing from these ghouls?

[–] gregorum@lemm.ee 27 points 2 years ago

proof again that the government could severely curtail homelessness if they wanted to-- they just don't.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 27 points 2 years ago

It's okay guys. The government is (checks notes) giving money to your land lords with no strings attached.

I'll be at the bar if anyone wants to join me.

[–] Immersive_Matthew@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Few seem to care…including those who will one day be there themselves.

[–] Kiernian@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Few seem to care…including those who will one day be there themselves.

What are those of us who care supposed to be doing?

Amidst deciding which bills get paid each paycheck, trying to find nutritional variety out of food banks (canned fish intake should ideally be less than 10 cans a month per person, for example, and even rinsing canned vegetables/beans isn't doing wonders for sodium intake compared to fresh), trying to decide which medical and dental issues we can afford to address and which just get to be endured, and watching debt go to collections because food, insurance, automobile fuel, home energy, rent, and everything related to cars has gone up, what are we supposed to be doing?

In what way can we unite as a people and fix this?

I could not comment as I do not know you, but many people choose nice things like bigger cars, new phone, alcohol and such over quality food. Some however are in a place that they are trapped and have no choice and for those people I have no advice other than to really make some noise and vote accordingly if you are in a country you can.

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Rents soar as government continues heavy suppression of new housing construction.

[–] cryostars@lemmyf.uk 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I keep seeing this argument. I see a metric funckton of new construction and they are ALL 400k+ which is a lot for our smaller/mid city. Existing inventory is averaging the same.

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yes some construction happens. It’s still profitable in some cases, especially when the target market is the richest segments of society.

But there could be so much more. They could build two houses on each of those plots of land, and maybe each house is only $250k but you’ve managed to get $500k of real estate out of the same plot of land which (as any good capitalist will tell you) is better than $400k of real estate.

But you can’t do that. Density restrictions. Zoning laws that are way too narrowly defined, ie bloated, and have long since surpassed the “Don’t boil horse carcasses next to a daycare” sort of scenario by which zoning laws are explained in our history books.

Instead of just protecting public health zoning’s now also protecting people’s views, protecting people’s lawns, protecting people’s resale value on their homes.

Like, oh your view of Mt Shasta got blocked by an apartment building? Gee that sucks but it also doesn’t suck that five hundred new apartments are on the market now, weakening the monopoly some local cartel has on pricing and slowing the rise of rent prices.

We have a sort of overton window in terms of how much construction is “a little” and how much is “a fuckton”. Living our lives in this kind of supply crackdown has calibrated our sense of how much construction is a fuckton.

Just imagine that construction you’re seeing … but twice as tall. Perfectly conceivable, even financially favorable to the people who would make it happen, but literally not allowed.

[–] Welt@lazysoci.al 4 points 2 years ago

This is an excellent and erudite comment. I'm curious what industry you work in. And did you make up “Don’t boil horse carcasses next to a daycare”? Because I'm fucking keeping it, funniest shit I've read all day. Keep it up mate

[–] quo@feddit.uk 6 points 2 years ago

Meanwhile the media is running a new story every week saying the economy is doing great, and asking why so many people think it's doing bad.

We're being gaslit, and this same exact story has been on multiple major outlets. Always condescending, claiming people just don't understand their own economic situation.

[–] Suavevillain@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

Something needs to be done. Housing is a nightmare.

[–] PlasmaDistortion@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago

They just to apply themselves, get out there and hustle, bring value, and make others rich! /s

[–] perviouslyiner@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)
[–] dragonflyteaparty@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

But don't forget it's all Biden's fault. Especially in the UK.

[–] ExLisper@linux.community 1 points 2 years ago

Both countries run by right wing partis. Coincidence?

[–] FunkyMonk@kbin.social -2 points 2 years ago

I'm sick of hearing about the have's and the have not's
Have some personal accountability
The biggest problem with the way that we've been doing things is
The more we let you have the less that I'll be keeping for me