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So uh… Israel… I’m pretty sure “never forget” doesn’t mean “we should practice it so we don’t forget how to conduct an efficient genocide”

[–] dwalin@lemmy.world 31 points 2 years ago (2 children)

There were tunnels under that food

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[–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 27 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

Has anyone else noticed how prolific rivermonster is in this thread? And how their comments are full of half-truths that always favor Israeli policy? Weird, isn't it?

[–] SoleInvictus@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I can't figure out if they spread propaganda and disinformation professionally or if they just have a hard on for Jewish ethnostates or Muslim genocide.

Watching their mental gymnastics as they try to justify Israeli's actions in Palestine while decrying Hamas's similar behavior is always good for a laugh. Plus how they accuse anyone critical of Zionism to be a Nazi or anti-semite. They're kinda the worst type of person.

[–] stmcld@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

Spamming the comment section with pro israeli comments or even just muddying the waters. I've seen it with a few posters, including rivermonster. It distracts those reading from the real issue being discussed, usually israeli crimes against humanity.

[–] dwalin@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

Well, from his comment history he is single minded at best.

[–] orrk@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

generally, they also have problems with the concept of "before / after" or literally say they ignore anything that disagrees with their statement

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[–] Hadriscus@lemm.ee 26 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I cannot help but think of nazi Germany when I read this. It's very similar

[–] pastermil@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 years ago

They gotta learn that somewhere...

[–] atro_city@fedia.io 24 points 2 years ago (18 children)

And the USA funds the genocide

[–] Caligvla@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 2 years ago

And acts as the good guys to boot.

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[–] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago (33 children)

Israel's army is apparently much closer to Russia's than the US'. This is disgusting and pathetic.

[–] spez_@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (2 children)
[–] Daxtron2@startrek.website 8 points 2 years ago (2 children)
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[–] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

No one's saying the US military are a bunch of faultless angels. But there's a certain line of morality they are expected to keep, and conduct like that is illegal. They're expected to disobey unlawful orders, and shit like this is unlawful.

Shit goes on at army bases and you'll hear about soldiers being shitty off and on base, but you never see the US military devolving into petty thugs like this in active combat.

Typically we save that for the police back home. And I wish I were being sarcastic.

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 years ago

Israel itself is culturally very similar to Russia. Living in Russia, I've always been amused how their public picture is so different in everything.

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[–] Sooperstition@lemmy.one 14 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The most moral army of the only democracy in the Middle East! If you disagree, you’re homophobic since some of these soldiers are gay

[–] TWeaK@lemm.ee 12 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Retired IDF General Israel Ziv told CNN he had seen the videos and was so disturbed by them that he reached out to IDF commanders in charge of the soldiers involved.

“I was (told) that the brigade commander will punish the ones who did that once they stop fighting,” he told CNN.

In its statement to CNN, the IDF said that “disciplinary measures will be taken regarding the soldiers involved.”

In other words, they're only interested in punishing the ones that get caught, and they'll only process it well after it's happened so they can just deliver a slap on the wrist.

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[–] meldrik@lemmy.wtf 5 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Tragic how the abused has become the abuser.

[–] Skates@feddit.nl 24 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (5 children)

This is not tragic. This is, has been, and will always be Israeli foreign policy. Ever since the state was created, they were supposed to be a "foothold of civilization in the region". They have constantly settled outside of borders and into Palestinian territory, and then defended their settlements with their superior firepower. They have constantly waged this type of unorthodox war. They supported Hamas as a tactical strike against the more moderate candidates in Palestine, because you can't paint moderates as the aggressor as easily - this worked wonders for their PR - they managed to clean their image, because they had an enemy that looked even worse.

Make no mistake friend - Israel has never been the abused, and throughout their short lifetime as a state they have only abused. They have been conducting an ethnic cleansing in the area. The only hope Palestinians have is that history books write the truth, but seeing as how Israel's money isn't running out and their reach is long, even this seems unlikely - just look at all the support they still have despite their foreign policy being literally genocide.

[–] aelwero@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Israel has never been the abuser, and throughout their short lifetime as a state they have only abused.

I believe you need to edit that... Not in the context of you being "wrong/right" or anything opinion based like that, just that its contradictional... I don't think it's what you meant to actually say is all :)

[–] Karyoplasma@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 2 years ago

I believe it's a simple typo. Should be "never been the abused" and d and r are close to each other.

[–] scrape@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

In addition the founders of Israel broke the international Anti-Nazi boycott to build their right wing ethnostate. This is who they have always been. Their support of the Nazis directly contributed to the holocaust.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haavara_Agreement

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[–] nonailsleft@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago

What makes you think these guys have ever been abused?

[–] wetnoodle@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Nazi subhuman trash (the IDF)

[–] theonyltruemupf@feddit.de 3 points 2 years ago

Don't dehumanize people ever, please. War crimes need to be pointed out and punished, but neither nazi nor subhuman is a reasonable accusation.

[–] HerbalGamer@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (6 children)

Fucking CNN blocks firefox? wtf

We apologize, but your web browser is configured in such a way that it is preventing this site from implementing required components that protect your privacy and allow you to view and change your privacy settings. This functionality is required for privacy legislation in your region. We recommend you use a different browser or disable the “EasyList Cookie” filter from your “Content Filtering” settings (found under “Settings” -> “Shields” in the Brave Browser).

[–] omnomed@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

Works fine for me even with adblocking & tracker bloacking.

[–] randombullet@feddit.de 3 points 2 years ago

Works fine for me. Firefox, Android, and within the EU.

[–] orrk@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

worked for me, FireFox Ublock, ABP, and no-script

[–] TWeaK@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago

No issue for me, sounds like you've got some settings they don't like, rather than explicitly blocking Firefox.

However I've had worse websites that just simply don't work in Firefox at all. I mean, they do load, but there's no ability to scroll, thus you cannot see the bulk of the content. An example: https://idno.vattenfall.co.uk/

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