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It wouldn't shock me at all that we find out later that Israel was bs'ing about this and Palestinians starved to death because of it.
So far UNRWA's track record is on Israel's side, and for the UNRWA to immediately fire 9 of those accused of collaborating with Hamas means the evidence that was presented to them was exceptionally compelling:
To their merit though, whenever they fucked up they admitted it.
It’s crazy to me that these countries cut funding, even after they fired those people. UNRWA is providing much needed help, from what I’ve heard of the reporting so far, and this disrupts those efforts a lot.
An independent investigation is still ongoing as there are 190 accused, not just 9. Those 9 employees are only those against whom the evidence was compelling enough to prompt an immediate firing by the UNRWA.
190 is ~0.006% of the UNRWA's 30k staff. Withholding aid from 1.5 million refugees over this is fucking criminal.
https://lemmy.world/comment/7127597
Evidently they count people as refugees even if they resettle elsewhere and get citizenship from another country, and all their descendants as well. If your father was a refugee so are you. Which leads to an interesting situation of people who were never personally displaced claiming refugee status for generations.
So you think a people should just relinquish their claim on their homeland if they haven't been personally displaced?
How far back is it convenient to go?
I guess it depends, looks like you can go back 2000 years for Jews, but can't even go less than 100 for Palestinians.
Yes.
Break the cycle.
I think they shouldn't qualify as refugees if they haven't been personally displaced, and I hope one day they realize that lives are more important than claims to land their ancestors lived on. The alternative, violence, is what led to them losing this land in the first place, and is why they continue to lose land and freedoms. Choosing violence has consequences.
Definitely don't let Israel know about your anti-Zionist views, you might lose your job.
Because anyone who disagrees with the pitchfork-wielding anti-Israel mob must be a shill, right? lol.
Removed, rule 5. Attack the message, not the user.
"Rule 5: Keep it civil. It’s OK to say the subject of an article is behaving like a (perjorative, perjorative). It’s NOT OK to say another USER is (perjorative). Strong language is fine, just not directed at other members. Engage in good-faith and with respect!"
Nah, I'm just saying that the whole point of Israel/Zionism is to let a people that was dispersed by the Roman Empire 2000 years ago should be allowed to return to their land. What you just said is that they should've just gotten over it and made a life whatever they ended up after one generation.
Or do the rules only apply to Palestinians, not Jews?
No, what I said was, "they shouldn't qualify as refugees if they haven't been personally displaced." The rest of that is a poor attempt at putting words into my mouth. I never said anything about Jewish claims to the land based on the Roman Empire expelling them being valid.
You can't get away with ad hominem, so you go right for the straw man fallacy. Is that what you consider to be, "engaging in good faith?"
I believe that refers to the 190 workers figure, not the 12 verified participants in October 7th.
Yes. That was in the portion I quoted.
So if the affiliation of the 12 isn't in question, israel can't be totally lying about this connection.