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[–] Strider@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago (3 children)
[–] Strider@thelemmy.club 32 points 5 months ago

Because cats are a godawful menace to local small vertebrate populations.

[–] Jessica@discuss.tchncs.de 24 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Outdoor domestic cats have directly contributed to the mass extinction of at least 33 species of wildlife worldwide: https://www.fws.gov/sites/default/files/documents/keep-cats-indoors.pdf

Plus the obvious answer, they live longer when they can't be mauled or run over.

[–] Strider@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

OK, thanks.

So I guess the situation is this: it depends. For example our cats do kill a bird a year maybe (species that are around in large numbers) but they mostly hunt mice which are abundant in most places and it's actually a benefit to cull their numbers.

While we also had one cat get poisoned by assholes we don't have any issues with cats getting run over ever and that's in a (EU) city.

[–] jwmgregory@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

it really doesn’t depend. you think your cats kill a bird a year “maybe.”

that’s just what you see. stop letting your cats roam freely outside, in america, europe, or literally anywhere. you see farmers here in the US using all the same coping arguments that you are here to justify why their cats are actually fine to roam free… and then it all adds up and accumulates to the detrimental environmental impacts that we see referenced in the linked sources. you are being a part of the problem.

your cats don’t “just” hunt mice. your cat could give less of a shit if it’s a mouse or an endangered species, it doesn’t know or care. multiply that many times over the millions of cat owners who think just like you, who think “oh well my cats are fine though…”

are they? i don’t think so.

i love cats and im sorry about yours getting poisoned, but, also you have to consider that had you not let your cats free roam there would’ve been a near zero percent chance of a stranger poisoning or otherwise hurting them.

it is doing a disservice to the environment and your pet to let a cat free roam, anywhere. even in agriculture. doesn’t matter.

[–] Strider@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

I am not arguing about this. Thanks for your statement.

[–] onlyhall@aussie.zone -5 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Humans contribute to way more.

[–] jwmgregory@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 5 months ago

that’s fucking stupid whataboutism, dude.

[–] Nalivai@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 5 months ago

Humans bringing perfect predators around is one way how humans contribute to it.

[–] rbos@lemmy.ca 13 points 5 months ago

They murder so, so many birds.