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[–] memfree@beehaw.org 4 points 4 months ago

I appreciate your skepticism and if I was randomly hearing the tale online, I would probably make the same conclusion. Personally, I believe the guy based on how I've seen him treat people for over 40 years and his general politics/world-view. If he'd said it happened to someone else, or if he hadn't seemed so confused and saddened when he asked me if he was wrong, maybe I'd feel different. As it is, I can imagine his shock at being accused may have lead him to exaggerate how hostile the waitress was, but mostly I'm thinking @Skua@kbin.earth is correct that it was just a case of mishearing what was said.

[–] memfree@beehaw.org 1 points 4 months ago

I'm hoping that's what happened because I don't know what else she could have expected.

[–] memfree@beehaw.org 2 points 4 months ago
[–] memfree@beehaw.org 15 points 4 months ago (6 children)

Off topic? : 80+ year old friend asked me if he did wrong. As he tells it, when dining out, his waitress announced her pronouns were she/her. That was fine by him. Later, he says he asked, "Could you get me a refill on my iced tea?" He says her reply was hostile, "How rude! I told you my pronouns!" He was truly baffled. He did not know how to use her pronouns in a 'you' context. I told him he was fine and if it ever came up again, to shoot back with, "Excuse me Miss, but I didn't ask some other HER for a refill, I asked you, and 'you', 'thee' and 'thou' include all genders." Maybe I'm ignorant of some new usage, but from grammar stance, I can't make she/her fit into his request and am fine with 'you'.

[–] memfree@beehaw.org 10 points 4 months ago

That sounds as likely as any other crazy uninformed reason the Trump team might have.

I do recommend watching those and other government pages because I'm sure this is not the end of the weird edits.

 

Yesterday Erin in the Morning reported that the term "bisexual" was getting removed from the national park services pages. It was. They had proof -- but now, they've reverted that change so it is NOT TRUE now. Perhaps it will be again, but PLEASE check before saying it is gone.

The source wrote the piece well and linked to an archive so people can see the history. They have a snapshot from July 10th with 'bisexual' erased, but as of July 11th, it is back. As I write, the text they cite for the MAIN page (not History) reads:

Before the 1960s, almost everything about living authentically as a lesbian, a bisexual person or a gay man was illegal.

The History page (current | Jun 4 archive } April 19 archive uses LGB) is obliquely worded and has been for months, saying:

Through the 1960s almost everything about living openly as a member of the Stonewall comunity was a violation of law

It still omits transgendered as it has since the February 'purge'.

 

Title article has overview, but this ABC piece has more context: https://abcnews.go.com/US/stonewall-uprising-veteran-honors-protest-historic-lgbtq-center/story?id=111454893

Mark Segal was 18 years old and had only lived in New York City for six weeks when he found himself at the center of the Stonewall Uprising in 1969.

The very spot where Segal once danced, drank and took part in one of the most consequential moments in LGBTQ history is now the first LGBTQ visitor center within the National Park System.

"At that time, we as a community were totally invisible," said Segal. "LGBT people were not in newspapers, were not in magazines, were not radio, not in television."

...

He continued, "Please don't be mournful. Be cheerful, because what happened [in the LGBTQ equality movement] got us to where we are today. So we should be somewhat celebratory. I know some of us didn't make it. But we're in a better place thanks to those people."

Biden spoke at the opening, as well as several other notable people: https://abc7ny.com/post/nyc-pride-president-joe-biden-visit-stonewall-national/15007800/

He told the cheering crowd, "its your love for each other and your community that brought this center to life."

Legendary singer, songwriter and pianist Elton John was also in attendance for the ceremony.

"I can say as a proud English, gay man, that this is one of the greatest honors of my life to be here today," he said. "The fight for freedom and equality is an ongoing one."

See also:

Park Service site: https://www.nps.gov/ston/index.htm

 

Excerpts:

On November 30, Russia’s Supreme Court labeled the international LGBTQ movement an “extremist organization,” claiming that it incites “social and religious hatred.”


The roots of this trend date back early into Putin’s tenure: In 2002, the Russian government adopted the Federal Law on Combating Extremist Activity in the wake of Russia’s wars in Chechnya and the global “war on terror.” Part of its definition of extremism is the “kindling of social, racial, ethnic, or religious discord,” as the court now claims the international LGBTQ movement does.


As Putin consolidated power over the next decade, the anti-extremism law came to be broadly applied to groups or individuals that posed a threat to his power — chiefly, in the words of SOVA, “organizations (whether registered or not) and mass media.” That became clear especially during the “Snow Revolution” of 2011 through 2013, which initially began as protests against Putin’s return to the presidency and parliamentary election results that journalists, civil society organizations, and opposition figures including Alexey Navalny decried as fraudulent.

Following those protests — the largest in Russia since the 1990s — and Putin’s return to power in 2012, the government in 2013 passed a law banning LGBTQ “propaganda,” unrelated to the extremism law. It was, essentially, an apolitical distraction and a nod to the socially conservative sectors that had helped elect him.

Similar to the American right, the Russian political class had begun looking for wedge issues to consolidate their base, Sam Greene, director for democratic resilience at the Center for European Policy Analysis, told Vox in an interview.

“They kind of just [started] throwing stuff at the wall to see what sticks,” he said. And while Russia’s laws surrounding LGBTQ rights were quite liberal and had been since the 1990s, the policy came before the widespread cultural understanding of LGBTQ life and queer identity — so, Greene said, “religion sticks, LGBT sticks.” It also was in line with Putin’s hypermasculine, misogynistic posturing and the lack of visibility and public conversation about sexuality.

And that political posture had real consequences for queer people. The 2013 legislation placed heavy fines on sharing information with minors about “non-traditional sexual relations.” At the time, Reuters reported in 2013, several municipalities in Russia already had similar laws, and anti-LGBTQ violence was becoming an increasing concern for queer Russians.

Since then, Putin’s government has increasingly used legislation as a weapon against LGBTQ people and organizations.


Since Thursday’s ruling, Russian authorities have already raided a number of queer venues including two bars and a bathhouse in Moscow, according to the Associated Press.

“Of course [the ruling] affects people in absolutely terrible ways — it’s part of a violent crackdown that is unleashed by the state and is performed by the state, but also by non-state actors and agents and wider society,” Kondakov told Vox in an interview. “It has an absolutely devastating effect on so many different levels — on a psychological level, but also real violence.”