admiralteal

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[–] admiralteal@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

No. It isn't. This isn't some weak state flailing about. This is a major world power, with a fair amount of material wealth and industry, actively pursuing an evil agenda for the sake of the egos of a few political personalities and fascist, right-wing domestic politics. There's nothing to pity here.

[–] admiralteal@kbin.social 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

It's not really true, see: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/oct/22/just-stop-oil-van-gogh-national-gallery-aileen-getty

This is one donor, not "the person behind". The family made a lot of money on oil and has since entirely divested. The "heiress" in question is on the record saying she believes climate change threatens all of civilization and so she wants to put her fortune -- especially given that a lot of it came from oil -- to use stopping fossil fuels.

It's basically EXACTLY what a sane person with a functional moral compass should do in that position, but it's used as attack and slander regardless. Threads like this you ALWAYS see the right-wing talking points parroted faithfully by people who are either too gullible to do basic fact-checking or else are flatly disingenuous and manipulative.

[–] admiralteal@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Or you could say these protestors are regularly getting in headlines, showing that there's an escalating culture of absolute rejection of social mores so long as major, vital changes don't happen. Creating serious problems for bureaucrats and elected officials that forces a response that often makes those officials and bureaucrats look like assholes.

The protests are factually inconveniencing and causing problems for people that have the influence to get policy changed, at least so long as democracy is functional. You aren't going to be able to protest an oil magnate. They are not accessible for protest.

Your thesis is that people will vote against climate protestors just because they were late getting to work one day. If that's correct, we may as well get out the Flavor-Aid because this world's beyond saving. Everyone needs to be reminded and thinking about this crisis. Every day. It needs to be front and center. Time is running out. We have the solutions needed to avoid catastrophe, but too many are simply not aware and thinking about how terrible the danger is and need daily reminding.

We seem to be forgetting that protests once involved burning down neighborhoods and executing rulers. Which really is what we should be doing, given the enormity of the problem. This is a more civil compromise. Don't buy into the media powers that want to turn you against anyone expressing discontent.

If the Earth Day protests happened today, the media narrative around them would be "Look at all these fuckers, on the streets, stopping me from getting to the gas station to buy a Slim Jim!" It's fucked. The attitude is fucked.

[–] admiralteal@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Oh man and that's free?

[–] admiralteal@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Does Switzerland even have meaningful immigration to be concerned with banning it?

Isn't this the country where communities vote on their neighbors' citizenship applications?