Why9

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[–] Why9@lemmy.world 25 points 2 years ago (3 children)

UK's David Cameron: "to suggest there's genocidal intent? I do believe that's wrong"

They'll bend over backwards to support Israel, and people are asking what Israel has over the UK to make it so. At some point, answers will have to be given.

[–] Why9@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Are you implying everyone there is future hamas?

No, and yes. If Hamas means resistance then sure. I don't see any Palestinians condemning Hamas because Hamas are literally brothers and sons and relatives of the survivors who have been born into oppression and have no option but to rebel or die.

Let's say you have a child, completely innocent, born into this world. Within a few years, he has survived multiple wars, seen violence and death dozens of times, and is already desensitised to mutilation and death by the time he's 7 years old. His family is dead, he's surviving on the good graces of strangers with no prospects for education and no moral compass in the form of parents to guide him on what's right and wrong.

By the time he's 17, he's being recruited into Hamas, who under a 70 year occupation, comprises people just like him, that want a free Palestine where children can be children and oppression isn't the norm. You're not going to reform him without removing his raison d'etre. Until there's Israeli oppression and no free Palestine, he's Hamas.

Do I agree with what Hamas did on October 7th? No. But in all forms of media and in history, people who are oppressed and free themselves from imprisonment and oppression are seen as heroes (if they're imprisoned unjustly, of course!), regardless of the number of people they kill in order to achieve their goals (like blowing up a Death Star, killing everyone on it).

The Star Wars' rebel alliance is an example. So is Katniss in Hunger Games or the Na'Vi in the Avatar movies. In my mind there's little difference between them. We don't condemn them as terrorists so why is Hamas different?

[–] Why9@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (5 children)

Look I get it, and you're probably right, but this world doesn't work in that way.

The US just side-stepped Congress to approve an arms shipment to Israel for the second time this month. Missiles and bombs aren't the answer, but we have to remain consistent.

And what will summoning Netenyahu achieve? He'll go to prison laughing (assuming the US ever let it get that far!), knowing his successor will reap the rewards of an uninhabitable Gaza full of a resentful, broken population fated to become the next Hamas for us to condemn in a few years' time. Israel will win land and space for more illegal settlements that'll go unchallenged because the US will continue to veto any action against them.

I don't agree military action is the answer but in the middle of a war where one side is being heavily supported, it makes little sense why the other side wouldn't seek some extra power as well.

[–] Why9@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

To protect "their" oil and to have a strategic base in Iraq that they can launch operations from. It's total BS.

[–] Why9@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (4 children)

The casualties suggest Hamas is collateral damage. The target, as has been made abundantly clear at this point, is the civilian population of Gaza.

[–] Why9@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (5 children)

I posted proof that Hamas uses hospitals as military bases

What proof? You've provided nothing. You just said they use hospitals as bases. There's no link, no source, no evidence at all.

Israel destroyed Al Shifa Hospital under the lie that there were tunnels and a command centre underneath, and weeks later there's still no evidence of anything that resembles a command centre.

There's no evidence at all that these facilities were being used as bases. Bombing thousands of wounded, innocent civilians under the probability that there might be a base (even though it's not confirmed) is just terrorism.

The only reason Israel isn't being done for war crimes right now is the US, and even they are saying the bombing is indiscriminate.

[–] Why9@lemmy.world 39 points 2 years ago (1 children)

If someone uses your name to justify cruelty, no matter how insignificant the person may be, it's always worth speaking up.

People could also take the Museum's silence on the matter as affirmation.

[–] Why9@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

He is directly and personally benefitting from the Israeli genocide of innocent Palestinians in Gaza. The huge contracts awarded to BP benefit his wife's firm directly, so he is allowing it to happen. He can't say the world is no utopia if he's directly responsible for the bombing, the daft prick.

The people destabilised there after Israel has bombed the everliving hell out of it, will probably look to move somewhere where there's no war and their children (what's left of them anyway) can at least grow to adulthood without being blown up.

It's human nature, to migrate from a disaster. In every single depiction of apocalypses and disasters in the media, people instinctively run for the border, taking all their belongings. Why not them? There are no wars in Europe. It makes total sense. I'd do the same every single time. If I've lost everything I own, it makes sense I have no money or documents to enter those countries legally. I'd have to seek asylum. It makes sense.

[–] Why9@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Just remember, Trump is watching this and taking notes.

[–] Why9@lemmy.world 46 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The US is the world's armoury. Sure, there are other nations that could help, but everyone knows it's the US that Kyiv is hoping for