Kusimulkku

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[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 1 points 7 months ago

I mean it's fairly straightforward when considering if "uncontrolled outdoor access" has dangers and harms to the cats

Uncontrolled outdoor access allows these natural behaviors, but it also poses a number of significant health and welfare risks, and the overall benefits of the performance of these behaviors is unknown.

But if you're not willing to take their word for it, there's other people talking about those dangers too

https://www.orangecountync.gov/1331/Safety-concerns-for-free-roaming-cats

https://www.avma.org/resources-tools/avma-policies/free-roaming-owned-cats

https://stories.tamu.edu/news/2023/10/19/how-free-roaming-cats-impact-wildlife-disease-transmission/

And so on and so on.

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 0 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Replying to singular lines or small parts of comments makes the whole comment a disjointed mess. If you aren't even willing to accept the multitude of studies and animal welfare organisations saying there's an (obvious) increased risk from unsupervised roaming, then there's nothing much to go on from here. If you feel there's more positives and can support that with studies, I'd be interested to see that. If it's just your emotional take, I understand that, but it's just not very responsible way to handle a pet.

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 0 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (4 children)

If you read the conclusion it does say it would be better to keep your cats indoors because of all the associated risks. You just seem to be in denial about the whole thing and I don't blame you, it's a really emotional topic for some reason.

I mean study after study gives the obvious conclusion that of course it comes with increased risk and of course you wouldn't be there to help them, it's unsupervised and unrestricted roaming, so duh. And of course it negatively affects the surrounding wildlife, you're introducing lots of cats to places that had a lot less if any cats.

But there's such a strong emotional aspect to it that I just can't understand that makes people pretend stupid or just refuse to accept the obvious conclusion.

The study mentions that risk factors of outdoor keeping vary by location. There is no mention of historic risk and therefore no assessment how these may have evolved.

You really need a study to say to you that thousands of years ago cars weren't as much of a risk?

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 2 points 7 months ago (6 children)

Well you might have heard of cars, highways and other such human created things that haven't existed during all that time.

Here's one study where they examined the welfare concerns over unrestricted/unsupervised outdoor access (and other concerns). https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7070728/#sec5-animals-10-00258

Also how are you mitigating the risk of “such dangers” for pets and children?

I wouldn't allow a cat or a small child to roam around unrestricted. It just seems due to the inherent threats pretty irresponsible.

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 0 points 7 months ago (8 children)

And they've been dying in some horrific ways during that time. Now there's also a lot of extra, human caused dangers. A responsible pet owner wouldn't subject their pet to such dangers.

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 0 points 7 months ago (10 children)

Letting it roam freely risks it getting hurt and without you being there to help it. It's not very responsible.

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 2 points 7 months ago

Don’t get get a cat if you live in an area that can’t accommodate them

What is an area that can accommodate pet cats lol

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 3 points 11 months ago

Or had no money

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

A brothel throwing out smarmy customers? Lel

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They're trying to kill my allergic ass

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I would be pretty scared. Where did those cats come from?!?

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I don't see why I wouldn't close it tbh.

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