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TERFs taking their gloves off for Imane Khelif (i.imgur.com)

submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by Five@slrpnk.net to c/lgbtq_plus@lemmy.blahaj.zone

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To clarify, the pictured poster Caroline Kwan is an ally, not a TERF. The TERFs referred to in the title are the ones ‘protecting a very specific idea of what a woman is’

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[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago (18 children)

Someone said it better:

Yep, heard someone complain about Khelif and I asked them if we should have disqualified Phelps considering his genetics give him all the advantages and if they believed we would have complained about Khelif 20 years ago and if they believed that men who's testosterone is under a certain level should fight in the women's category. That was the end of them complaining.

Lol, no one complain about Michael Phelps but people are suddenly making faux concerns about women's sports-- which is specifically strange considering no one says the same about men's sports. It is though this isn't motivated by misogyny and transphobia.

[–] eleitl@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago (17 children)

Yes, by all means let us abolish the artificial separation between olympic male and female sports. I personally don't care one bit, since I don't have a stake in the game. Career athletes will probably disagree, but fuck them, right?

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago (9 children)

So, would you agree that if a born male is below the certain testosterone level that the person should compete in women's category? No one seems to be railing on this but somehow everyone is up in arms when it comes to women's sports.

[–] eleitl@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Not really. Not a sport physiologist, but the core advantage is due to male puberty. If you prevent male puberty with blockers and afterwards keep male testosteron in low range and/or use the same regimen as in m2f transition these individuals would be better matched in a female competition.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"I'm not an expert, but here's my expert opinion."

[–] eleitl@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I have studied molecular biology and researched M2F transition issues privately. I have not claimed to be an expert is sport physiology. Your comeback has no substance.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Ah yes. Privately. You did your own research. Now you're a scientician.

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Are you saying some of these born males intentionally use blockers during their puberty? Let's say these born male individuals want to compete athletically in male sports but were outperformed; basically you're saying it's their fault for using blockers during their puberty?

[–] eleitl@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

There are now some M2F transitioners who take puberty blockers during adolescence. Some of them might become athletes.

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