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[–] Allonzee@lemmy.world 106 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

Reminds me of why torture as a means of information gathering is ridiculous.

I will absolutely tell you what I think you want to hear when you start stabbing me, whether its the truth or I ever knew it at all.

But I also hate you for torturing me, so If I do happen to know the thing then I also know enough about the thing to alter the answer to something false but plausible for a moment of relief while you act on it, because we all know if you're torturing me, you have no intention of letting me out alive.

This is why the lets be pals/wine and dine approach is more effective.

[–] ObstreperousCanadian@lemmy.ca 17 points 1 year ago

This is why I liked the how Torture skill in Burning Wheel does just this: you decide what the victim says. It's not true, it's just what they admit to.

[–] GBU_28@lemm.ee 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well, real pros say:

"Thanks for finally providing some info. We are going to go corroborate it. If you lied, or if we can't find convincing evidence your info was right, we will take this conversation up with your wife/kid/family"

[–] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] nodiet@feddit.de 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Joel pretended to do that in the last of us, only to turn around saying "I believe your friend" and killing the second guy immediately.

[–] Zoot@reddthat.com 4 points 1 year ago

Well they really shouldn't have stabbed him to begin with!

[–] NegativeInf@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Which is why you get the deets, stab anyways, check for accuracy. If incorrect, revive, repeat.

[–] kautau@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

The CIA hates this one weird trick!

[–] renormalizer@feddit.org 3 points 1 year ago

I doubt their soul would be willing to be revived just to be tortured and killed again.

[–] Natanael@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 year ago

That what the brits did to get Germans to talk in WW2