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As a Finn I say this is fine. Every military resource that is tied down and not raping and destroying Ukraine is net positive.

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[–] Roflmasterbigpimp@lemmy.world 49 points 2 years ago (39 children)

My perspective on war is so corrupted, at this point.

At one hand I want peace in Europe but on the other Hand I know Russia won't stop until they are beaten so getting NATO involved might end this conflict faster.

[–] doctorcrimson@lemmy.today 28 points 2 years ago (23 children)

I've wanted to fight Russia since they annexed Crimea. I knew it wouldn't end there, and I was proven right. If they manage to obtain the natural resources of Ukraine then it will just keep escalating. The thing is, though, Russia has lost so many troops that they could easily be swept, right now. Now has never been a better time for either the EU or NATO to force Russia into demilitarization and reparations, as well as putting more economic pressure on the Chinese Dictatorship.

One thing I don't want, though, is a direct conflict with China. Those fuckers need to try fixing their own shit, first. Idk if that makes me strong against the weak and weak against the strong, but there is simply too much to lose for all sides in that sort of conflict, unlike the very weakened and destabilized Russia.

[–] ichbinjasokreativ@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (7 children)

Never going to happen. Russia has nukes, remember?

[–] JeffKerman1999@sopuli.xyz 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

how many of them are correctly mantained and in working conditions?

[–] ichbinjasokreativ@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Maybe. The issue is we don't know. Are our missile defense systems able to take down that 1%? How reliably? What if that's 5% instead?

It's all a game of probability, and all it takes is 1 missile to slip through. The only 0% chance is if no nukes are fired in the first place.

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