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[–] fine_sandy_bottom@discuss.tchncs.de 23 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Australian here. We're just gonna do whatever the US does thanks. We know where our MREs are buttered.

In the coming decades shits gonna get tense in asia / pacific (where we live). The US just gave us nuclear subs. What are the Palestinians offering?

[–] Deceptichum@kbin.social 22 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

They have not given us nuclear subs, we paid for them and maybe in 2050 will get them assuming nothing happens to America before than.

And we don’t fucking need them, why would we need to project our power out towards China to defend our local seas?

That was almost $400 billion that could have been better put to use towards improving the lives of Australians at home.

What America has given us is thousands of dead Australians across many stupid fucking seppo started wars.

[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 13 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Seriously. I didn’t even think we needed the French deal, but breaking that to spend way more money on the Americans was such an embarrassing screw-up.

[–] Deceptichum@kbin.social 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

To be fair the French were trying to fuck us over as well by trying to change the deal to better suit them (more manufacturing done in France, when it was meant to help local industries here).

[–] Beldarofremulak@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] Deceptichum@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Just to clarify it’s only an Australian term, dunno why its added UK and Ireland there.

[–] hitmyspot@aussie.zone 12 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Australian here. I'm embarrassed and angry that we are in breach of un human rights so often in our immigration policy.

Being opposed to genocide is pretty much the least we could do. The USA is not giving us subs. They are selling them. We won't need them by the time they are delivered as unmanned drone submarines will be the norm. It's why they are willing to share.

[–] fine_sandy_bottom@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I agree with everything you've said.

I'm also embarrassed by our stance on gaza.

... and yet, the US is our only chance at staying on the right side of China both politically and militarily. We don't have a lot of credit to squander on doing what's "right".

[–] hitmyspot@aussie.zone 3 points 2 years ago

Apart from silly trade wars, which are less than the USA did to Canada under trump, China has not been an aggressive trade partner. We ally with the US due to historical links. Similarly with the UK. China is a risk as they are large, powerful and their political system and values don't match ours, but if you take xenophobia aside, they have helped.us.mich more than hindered. There are few dead Australians from wars China got us involved in.

[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

This is the best summary I could come up with:


Australia is being urged to reconsider its support for the Israeli government after the top United Nations court ordered the country to take all measures to prevent genocide in Gaza.

Without directly urging Israel to comply with the order, a spokesperson for foreign minister, Penny Wong, said on Saturday: “We note decisions of the ICJ are binding on the parties to a case.”

On Saturday, prime minister Anthony Albanese was asked about the Greens calls to formally intervene at the ICJ on behalf of South Africa’s case and commit to sanctions.

But the ruling, following South Africa’s application for special measures, provides a strong indication that the judges believe there is a credible risk to Palestinians under the 1948 genocide convention, enacted after the mass murder of Jews in the Nazi Holocaust.

Australian Centre for International Justice executive director, Rawan Arraf, told 2GB the federal government could reassess its ties to Israel in light of the ICJ ruling.“Australia also has legal obligations as a state party to the genocide convention and that means it really needs to review all of its economic, political and military ties with the state of Israel,” she said.The Australian Council For International Development urged the government to amplify calls for an immediate and permanent ceasefire in the region.“In more than 100 days of war, the world has witnessed the death of over 25,000 Palestinians in Gaza and 65,000 injured, as well as 1.7 million internally displaced, and the collapse of healthcare, education and welfare systems,” chief executive Marc Purcell said.

Israeli officials have accused the international court of justice of antisemitic bias and expressed dismay that a South African case alleging that the war in Gaza amounts to genocide was not thrown out altogether.


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