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US says 'no way' to solve Israel security, Gaza war without Palestinian state (www.reuters.com)

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There is "no way" to solve Israel's long-term security challenges in the region and the short-term challenges of rebuilding Gaza without the establishment of a Palestinian state, U.S. State Department spokesperson Matthew Miller said on Thursday.

Speaking at a news briefing, Miller said Israel had an opportunity right now as countries in the region were ready to provide security assurances to Israel.

"But there is no way to solve their long-term challenges to provide lasting security and there is no way to solve the short-term challenges of rebuilding Gaza and establishing governance in Gaza and providing security for Gaza without the establishment of a Palestinian state."

The comments came after Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said in a press conference he had told Washington that he objected to any Palestinian statehood that did not guarantee Israel's security.

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[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 43 points 2 years ago (1 children)

They don't want to solve it...

Far right authoritarians would kill for this scenario. Look at how much American conservatives try to make it sound like Mexico is going to invade, because when people are scared, they vote for far right authoritarians

For fucks sake, Israel has been letting suitcases of cash pass from Israel to Hamas for years so they can stay operational.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/israel-sent-suitcases-of-cash-into-gaza-for-years-despite-concerns-about-funding-hamas/ar-AA1lkVMG

Israels government wanted something like 10/6 to happen because they were about to lose power.

They'd rather have some dead Israelis if it justifies an invasion and subsequently seizing land.

[–] yetAnotherUser@feddit.de 11 points 2 years ago

Same applies to Hamas. Why would they want peace when the leadership can live in luxury and remain in permanent control? If it means forcing every Palestinian to be a martyr, that's just the price they're willing to pay.

Hamas and Netanyahu's government very much have a mutually beneficial relationship.

[–] Machinist3359@kbin.social 14 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You can maybe have a Gaza state, but Israel has destroyed any hope of a united west bank that could be meaningfully called a state. Unless they also returned all stolen land, but those illegal settlers are the most extreme.

[–] FuzzyWeevil@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 2 years ago

I think the UN said Northern Gaza won't be habitable for years.

[–] ChunkMcHorkle@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Netanyahu said in a press conference he had told Washington that he objected to any Palestinian statehood that did not guarantee Israel’s security.

Bibi's only insisting upon that point because there is literally no such thing in reality: there is NO arrangement between warring neighbors that can guarantee "security" apart from the willingness of the participants themselves to stand down. And even if there were, he'd never agree to it anyway. (Nor would Hamas, off in their Qatari penthouses watching from afar.)

Plus, of all the participants who would have to agree to stand down, Israel seems to be the biggest force and the side waging the most active battle of the war. That's problematic, because why would any of the weaker participants stop fighting when the biggest force has no intention of doing so? Israel would have to stand down first before any of the rest, for the détente to be taken seriously by anyone else involved.

Thus, by demanding the impossible and refusing to settle for anything less, Bibi maintains the status quo (and his own power, as well as that of Hamas). Corrupt authoritarian asshole.

[–] Mrkawfee@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

There needs to be one state with equal rights for all. That's the most realistic way forward.

[–] speaker_hat@lemmy.one -2 points 2 years ago

Palestinians don't want peace nor a state.

The want to undo the what so called "Nakba" a thing that will never happen as long as Israel exists.