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[–] barsoap@lemm.ee -3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

How’s that gonna change anything

It's not. But other stuff does. I e.g. talked about how Poland dealt with things.

Different actors in different situations require different approaches to change their behaviour. Is that such a controversial take?

[–] Annoyed_Crabby@monyet.cc 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

And what did the other nation do? In particular German, UK, Australia, US?

[–] barsoap@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Germany is effectively boycotting settlement products and has very deep ties into the whole of Israeli civil society and politics, doing our best behind the scenes to stop Israel from falling to fascism. We're also funding tons of projects in Palestine, along with generally speaking the EU. Because of history and to not risk those deep ties, don't ever expect Germany to play the bad cop.

All these are long-standing and long-term strategies. I mean to even threaten suspending UNWRA funds you have to be funding them in the first place, aren't you.

UK historically has been very friendly with the Arabs so Israelis are apprehensive of them, anyway. They're not a core player. Australia doesn't even register on the radar and the US is, as so often, being bonkers.

[–] small44@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The government of Germany or people who are boycotting the settlement products

[–] barsoap@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago

Those products aren't even in shelves. It's a EU-wide thing btw: Settlement products have to be labelled as such, not "made in Israel", and stores aren't offering them to customers, why would they. It's kinda like advertising a product with "Made in a North Korean slave factory", not exactly a selling point.

[–] Annoyed_Crabby@monyet.cc 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

That long term strats seems to going down the drain, don't you think? If the conflict started just last year then yeah it makes sense, but none of it makes any sense when the situation becoming worst and worst each conflict, with them claiming more and more West Bank land. What you mention above didn't involve correcting Israel behaviour whatsoever.

[–] barsoap@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago

That long term strats seems to going down the drain, don’t you think?

I think without Germany Israel would've long since fallen to fascism.