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[–] Arete@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (16 children)

Is Israel stealing land in the Gaza strip? Unlike the West Bank there are no settlements and the border is a clearly defined wall. I agree if they forcibly resettle the population and claim the strip for themselves that would be ethnic cleansing, but they haven't done that.

Pushing civilians out of a city during war is common practice (see literally any Eastern Ukrainian city). Pushing them out of their country is not. Gaza is essentially an urban city-state which conflates these two actions.

[–] Madison420@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (4 children)

They have openly stated that's their intention, not succeeding yet is not a measure of how much they want to succeed.

[–] Arete@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Can you offer any proof of that beyond some disgusting statements by the finance minister, who is not setting military policy?

[–] zbyte64@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Just Google it my dude:

The Israeli Intelligence ministry, in a 'concept paper,' proposes transferring Gaza civilians to Egypt https://apnews.com/article/israel-gaza-population-transfer-hamas-egypt-palestinians-refugees-5f99378c0af6aca183a90c631fa4da5a

[–] Arete@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yup that's bad and I appreciate the source, thanks. The devil's advocate counterpoint would be that virtually all nations have intelligence "concepts" for wildly implausible actions they have no intention of pursuing. It's kind of the job of the intelligence agency to prepare for any potential eventuality. I'm pretty sure the US has detailed plans for war with Canada, should they be needed. Egypt is the country who originally locked the Gaza Strip down - there is next to zero chance Israel could force a resettlement in Egypt. But if they made an actual attempt, it would be ethnic cleansing. At that point, should the US government continue support, this case would actually have merit.

[–] zbyte64@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 years ago

The difference here is the Palestinians don't have passports, they can't return. Even our war plans with Canada don't include genocide, this plan does (because there is no opportunity to return).

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