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Is a nat 20 not treated as a critical success? At least that’s how my 5e DM handles those.
Nat 20 adds one to the degree of success, which almost always means a crit unless you are dealing with something way above your level.
How some crazies want ability checks to work:
Player: I gesture vaguely towards the ancient dragon indicating I would like it to give me all of its gold and become my personal pet.
DM: Roll a persuasion check
Player: Let's see... Minus 4 because I'm still only level 2.... With a Nat-20 that's totals 16
DM: Nat-20? By golly I guess that means you succeed - the ancient dragon and its entire hoard of treasure are yours now.
Heh I would play it as the player is now PART of the hoard and is now the DRAGONS personal pet. The player was too persuasive lol.
And now the shenanigans is trying to get away from said dragon. And the rest of the group will now be dealing with a dragon that wants its shiny back in its hoard for the entire rest of the campaign.
Nat 20s can make for some GREAT monkey paw situations. Its really fun.